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On Big Lives, we're interested not just in the story of the icons we cover, but also on the impact they have on the world around them. And when it comes to George Harrison, his legacy has continued to evolve. So we're sharing an episode today from Hit Parade, Slate's podcast about pop-chart history and music analysis. Host Chris Molanphy shines a light on “Here Comes the Sun,” the George Harrison deep cut from Abbey Road that, in the streaming era, has emerged as the most enduring—and most popular—Beatles song of all time. In the 1960s, the Beatles were defined by the success of the Lennon-McCartney songwriting partnership. But in the digital era, we discovered that the Fab Four’s most popular song wasn’t written by John or Paul. In fact, it had never been a chart hit—it wasn’t even released as a single. Find more from Hit Parade wherever you get podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Why is Madonna one of the most controversial pop stars of all time? Before cancel culture and social media outrage, Madonna was already at the centre of America's biggest culture wars. Hosts Kai and Emmanuel sit down with writer and Scamfluencers host Scaachi Koul to explore Madonna's most defining controversies, from Like a Prayer to the infamous Sex book, and reveal how she turned feminism, sexuality, and provocation into cultural power. A must-listen for fans of pop history, music, and feminism. Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Who was the real James Baldwin, beyond the famous speeches and viral quotes? Hosts Kai and Emmanuel are joined by biographer Nicholas Boggs to explore the life and legacy of one of America's greatest writers. From his friendships and romances to his fiercest political battles and literary triumphs, discover how a Black, queer writer became one of the sharpest observers of America and its contradictions. James Baldwin: A Love Story by Nicholas Boggs is out now in paperback Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The new Odyssey movie was just released, with a star-studded cast including Tom Holland, Zendaya, Matt Damon, Anne Hathaway and Robert Pattison. If you’re a fan of fantastical myths and legends, heroes behaving badly, ancient Greek culture and want to know more about Homer’s epic poems that have inspired countless writers, artists and filmmakers for centuries, look no further than this episode of You’re Dead To Me from the BBC - the comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Host Greg Jenner is joined in ancient Greece by historian Dr Emily Hauser and comedian and actor Kiell Smith-Bynoe to learn about the Iliad and Odyssey. Traditionally attributed to the poet Homer, these works tell parts of a legend that has fascinated us for centuries: the story of the Trojan War. Featuring a cast of unforgettable characters – Achilles, Odysseus, Paris, Helen, Hector and Agamemnon – the war between ancient Greece and Troy has inspired writers, artists and filmmakers for over a millenium. But the Iliad and Odyssey only…

We trace Tina Turner's journey from the cotton fields of Nutbush, Tennessee to global superstardom. We dig into the abuse that nearly ended her career, her extraordinary reinvention, and the overlooked influence she and other Black women had on a genre that too often erased them. This is the real story of one of music's most powerful voices, and the legacy the industry tried to forget. Additional archive: Simply The Best, Capitol Records, 1991 River Deep Mountain High, Philles Records, 1966 Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Lauryn Hill is a generational voice, a cultural lightning rod, and one of music’s biggest what-ifs. This time, we're joined by NPR’s Code Switch host B.A. Parker to unpack the meteoric rise of the Fugees frontwoman, Lauryn Hill, and the intense pressures that pushed one of hip-hop and R&B's brightest stars out of the spotlight. From Grammy-winning highs to the questions that still surround her, we explore why Lauryn Hill's influence continues to shape hip-hop, soul, and pop today. Listen and subscribe to Big Lives for more deep dives into the artists who defined a generation. Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

David and Victoria Beckham weren't always the untouchable power couple we know today. In 1998, David was public enemy number one after a red card cost England the World Cup. So how did the Beckhams go from national villains to a global billion-dollar brand? We break down the Beckham playbook: how David and Victoria used humor, honesty, and razor-sharp media instincts to rewrite their story, survive relentless tabloid scrutiny, and build an empire spanning football, fashion, music, and celebrity culture. From World Cup backlash to billionaire status, this is the story of image, reinvention, and the making of modern celebrity power. Additional archive: Ali G, Comic Relief, 2001 Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sharing Malcolm Gladwell’s latest project, featuring our very own Kai Wright: a podcast called Reconstruction: The Unfinished Promise. Imagine a time when the United States was split in two. And then had to put itself back together. It was a time of chaos and sometimes violence as millions of people fought for the right to become citizens. Americans struggled over questions like: who gets to be a citizen? Who has the right to vote? To own property? In short, who belongs? This was Reconconstruction… the era following the Civil War. When Americans ended slavery and expanded voting rights. But none of this was easy. Many people consider the promise of Reconstruction unfulfilled. Why? In this episode, Kai shares the story of the legendary abolitionist leader Frederick Douglass and how he navigated a world without Abraham Lincoln. Find Reconstruction: The Unfinished Promise on Audible or wherever you get podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sinéad O’Connor had one of the most unforgettable voices in music history and one of the most misunderstood lives. Kai and Emmanuel go beyond the "angry pop star" label and headlines to tell the real story of Sinéad O'Connor: the artist, the activist, and the icon who was right long before the world caught up. From "Nothing Compares 2 U" to her infamous 1992 Saturday Night Live moment, we explore the trauma, the artistry, and the fierce moral courage that defined her. What emerges is a portrait of a soft-spoken, deeply principled woman whose so-called controversies look a lot like clarity in hindsight. Additional archive: Nothing Compares 2 U, Chrysalis, 1990 Saturday Night Live, NBC, 1992 Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This Juneteenth, in the wake of the Supreme Court’s seismic rulings on voting rights, Emmanuel and Kai talk about the legacy of one man: Jesse Jackson. We trace his journey from teenage activist to Martin Luther King Jr.’s inner circle to building a political movement that reshaped America. Along the way: the ambition, conflict, and vision behind one of the most complex figures in Black politics. Additional archive: Hosea Williams interview In this episode, you'll learn about: Jesse Jackson's early years as a civil rights activist His pivotal role in Martin Luther King Jr.'s inner circle How he built a grassroots political movement The ambition, controversy, and vision that defined his legacy What Jackson's story means for Black politics today Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Before the fame, there was incarceration. George Takei has lived an extraordinary life: from a childhood in Japanese American internment camps to a groundbreaking role on Star Trek, to a decades-long struggle with identity. This Pride Month, George Takei’s journey reminds us that coming out is not just a moment. It’s a lifetime of courage. Additional archive: Star Trek: Mirror, Mirror, 1967, Paramount Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Pop princess, gay icon, global enigma. We unpack how Kyle Minogue, soap star with “manufactured” hits, became the ultimate symbol of joy for generations of fans. For Pride Month, celebrate the singer embraced by queer communities long before the mainstream caught up. From chart bangers to queer club anthems, Kylie turned criticism into cultural staying power. Additional archive: Can’t Get You Out of My Head, Parlaphone, 2001 Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ziggy Stardust didn’t just land - he detonated. We rewind to David Bowie’s 1972 Top of the Pops breakthrough and unpack the paradox at its core: a “meaningless” persona that transformed culture. Was Ziggy a liberation engine, a postmodern performance, or just a bored kid’s rebellion dressed in glitter? This Pride Month, we revisit the gender-bending, rule-breaking persona that helped a generation imagine new ways to be. Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happened to the golden age of Rom-Coms? Emmanuel and Kai tell the story of the Rom-Com boom via the career of its biggest star, Meg Ryan. From When Harry Met Sally, to one of the more infamous talk show appearances of all time, we unpack Meg Ryan’s appeal, and what we actually want from love in the movies. Additional archive: When Harry Met Sally, Castle Rock Entertainment, 1989; Burger King commercial, Burger King Company LLC, 1982 Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

He screamed, shimmered and rewrote popular music and then disappeared from the throne he built. This episode reveals Little Richard’s unstoppable rise, painful erasure, and lifelong battle between the divine and the profane. A vivid, funny and heartbreaking meditation on race, queerness, faith and why rock and roll history still gets its origin story wrong. Additional archive: Tutti Frutti by Little Richard, Speciality, 1957 Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happens when a black icon refuses to make white audiences comfortable? This episode traces Muhammad Ali’s BBC interviews—full of swagger and wit, fury and fallout—to reveal how he reshaped media, protest and public speech. Along the way: Vietnam, the Nation of Islam, Joe Frazier, and a blueprint every outspoken Black celebrity still wrestles with today. Additional archive: When We Were Kings, PolyGram Film Productions, 1996 Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Born into a spotlight she never asked for, Liza Minnelli didn’t only survive her inheritance—she made it into her own art. Using BBC archive, iconic performances, and her complicated bond with her mother Judy Garland, we reveal why her vulnerability is her superpower. From Broadway to Hollywood, nepo baby discourse to Cabaret breakout, we explore her raw emotional magnetism, impossible childhood, legendary resilience, and that indefinable spark you can’t look away from. Additional archive: New York, New York (Original Motion Picture Score), United Artists Records, 1977 Judy Garland and Liza Minnelli, Live At The London Palladium, Capitol Records, 1965 Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sir David Attenborough turns 100 this year—and no one has done more to shape how humanity sees our planet. But for years, there was one issue he didn’t talk about. Emmanuel & Kai chart the story of how one nerdy rock-collecting kid became one of TV’s biggest stars, and took on the most important mission of his life. Additional archive: Our Planet II, Netflix 2023 Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

LL Cool J didn’t conquer hip‑hop by being the toughest or the slickest, he did it by being unabashedly himself. Kai & Emmanuel break down the charisma, contradictions, and carefully crafted showmanship that turned a Queens teenager into a global cultural force. Through BBC archive gems and Kai’s own teenage misadventures, revisit the chaotic early days of Def Jam Records and the Soft Boy anthem that shook hip‑hop. Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Amy Winehouse rewrote the rules of modern songwriting by refusing to fake a single feeling. In this episode, Kai and Emmanuel explore the BBC archive and find how a teenage jazz obsessive became a generational storyteller. Someone who insisted on truth over polish, grit over gloss, and emotional precision over pop perfection. Through her own words and early performances, we trace how Amy crafted songs that felt like conversations, confrontations, and confessions all at once - and why her radical honesty still reverberates. Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Richard Pryor redefined comedy by telling the truth, even when it scorched him. In this raw, riveting episode, Kai and Emmanuel unearth BBC archival tape to explore how Pryor rose from a Peoria, Illinois brothel to become comedy’s GOAT, only to then wrestle with racism, fame, desire, and self‑destruction. From Cosby‑clean beginnings to volcanic honesty, this is the story of a man who changed culture by refusing to lie — even to save himself. A Note to Our Listeners: This episode includes a sensitive discussion regarding attempted suicide. We encourage you to listen with care and prioritize your well-being. If you need support, free and confidential help is available 24/7. Call or text 988 (US/Canada) or 111 (UK) for professional assistance. Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

George Michael was more than scandal headlines and tabloid punchlines. He was one of the defining pop artists of his generation. Through rare BBC interviews, Kai and Emmanuel unspool the emotional arc behind the hits: teen heart‑throb, closeted superstar, grieving partner, activist, and ultimately a gay icon who reclaimed the narrative with wit, rage, and dazzling talent. A moving reexamination of fame, queerness, and survival in a decade that preferred not to look too closely. Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts on YouTube and Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jane Fonda didn’t just change Hollywood; she rattled American politics, beauty standards, and the birth of modern fitness culture. Kai and Emmanuel dig into the BBC archives to trace how the Oscar-winning “nudie cutie” became a firebrand activist, conservative boogeyman, and unlikely fitness mogul. From the 1960s Barbarella sex symbol to “Hanoi Jane” to the face of the VHS home workout revolution, we unravel the woman who kept reinventing herself — and became one of the most polarizing figures in American history. Connect with the team! Follow our hosts Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X Follow BBC Podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Big Lives is a show about the cultural giants we think we know - until the archive proves we don’t. Each episode, acclaimed journalists Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi dive into the BBC’s century‑deep vault of interviews, performances, and forgotten tape to rediscover the humans buried beneath the headlines. Jane Fonda, George Michael, Richard Pryor, Amy Winehouse and more: the people who shaped modern culture, but were flattened into punchlines, scandals, or single defining images. New episodes release on Mondays, starting March 23. Listen ad-free with a Pushkin+ subscription. Sign up on the Big Lives show page on Apple Podcasts or at pushkin.fm/plus. Follow Pushkin on Instagram, LinkedIn or X. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.